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#1 2009-03-15 18:44:42

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[Gear] Avonar - shadow priest

My head is being done in by dps gear. So hopefully this way I'll at least have figured out what to need on.

When multiple items are listed as an upgrade, the order in which the items are listed is not by priority.

Head
Current: Cowl of Vanity (0 hit)
Upgrade: Hood of Rationality (Malygos 25) (0 hit)
Priority: low

Neck
Current: Cosmic Lights (o hit)
Upgrade: Wyrmrest Necklace of Power (Malygos head turn-in)(43 hit)
Prioity: low

Back
Current: Disguise of the Kuminho
Upgrade: Cape of the Unworthy Wizard (Kel'thuzad-Naxx25)(0 hit)
Upgrade: Pennant Cloak (Sarth +2, 25)(0 hit)
Prioity: high

Shoulders
Current: Valorous Mantle of Faith (shadow T7)(41 hit)
Upgrade: n/a
Priority: n/a

Wrist
Current: Punctilious Bindings (0 hit)
Upgrade: Unsullied Cuffs (Sarth +2, 25)(0 hit)
Priority: medium

Chest
Current: Heigan's Putrid Vestements (49 hit)
Upgrade: Gown of the Spellweaver (Malygos 10)(72 hit)
Priority: medium

Hands
Current:  Valorous Handwraps of Faith (SP T7)(0 hit)
Upgrade: none
Priority: n/a

Waist
Current: Leash of Heedless Magic (0 hit)
Upgrade: n/a
Priority: n/a

Legs
Current: Leggings of Mortal Essence (0 hit)
Upgrade:  none
Prioity: n/a

Feet
Current: Boots of Forlorn Wishes  (0 hit) | Xintor's Expeditionary Boots (43 hit)
Upgrades: n/a
Priority: n/a

Main hand
Current: Haunting Call (45 hit)
Best upgrade: Torch of Holy Fire (0 hit)
Very good upgrade: Hammer of the Astral Plane (KT, Naxx 10)(0 hit)
Decent upgrade: The Impossible Dream (Loatheb, Naxx 25)(0 hit)
Decent upgrade: Ice Spire Scepter (Malygos 10)(0 hit)
Prioity: high

Off hand
Current: Ward of the Violet Citadel (38 hit) | Accursed Spine  (0 hit)
Prioity: n/a

Wand
Current: Plague Igniter
Upgrade: n/a
Priority: n/a

Trinkets
Current: Sundial of the Exiled | Dying Curse
Upgrade:  none
Priority: n/a

Fingers
Current: Band of Channeled Magic | Lost Jewel
Upgrade: Signet of Manifested Pain (Kel'thuzad-Naxx25)
Priority: medium

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#2 2009-03-16 00:49:20

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#3 2009-03-16 09:39:44

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Re: [Gear] Avonar - shadow priest

duffry wrote:

Staff of Restraint no good?

I actually have that as part of my holy set. It's comparable to what I have now for main hand/off hand qua stats - though it also has things that I really don't need that much, like MP5. Really, though, there are much better alternatives, like the ones I've listed.


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#4 2009-03-16 10:06:53

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The MP5 on the torch kinda makes me think healers though...


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#5 2009-03-16 10:41:06

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Re: [Gear] Avonar - shadow priest

It's one of those things that's a healer and a dps main hand - best in slot for shadow priests and holy priests. It's biggest selling point for both specs is the huge amount of spellpower.

I'd passed on it a few times when Av was still holy as I had the Staff of Restraint and was happy with that.

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#6 2009-03-17 20:39:40

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Re: [Gear] Avonar - shadow priest

would like to point out duff that if you were stil planing on making dps pass that torch of holy fire  for healers its clerly not the only thing a healer wants as av used to pass it! tongue

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#7 2009-06-14 00:21:07

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Re: [Gear] Avonar - shadow priest

Head
Current:  Velen's Circlet of Triumph (T9 - 245)
Upgrade: Sanctified Crimson Acolyte Cowl(264) - tier token (T10)
Priority: medium

Neck
Current: Soulcleave Pendant
Upgrade: Bone Sentinel's Amulet - ICC25 - Marrowgar
Upgrade (better): Blood Queen's Crimson Choker(264) - ICC25 Bloodqueen Lana'Thel
Priority: medium/low

Back
Current: Shawl of Refreshing Winds
Upgrade: Greatcloak of the Turned Champion(264) - ICC25 - Saurfang
Upgrade (better): Frostbinder's Shredded Cape(264) - ICC25 Valithria Dreamwalker
Priority: low

Shoulders
Current: Velen's Mantle of Triumph (T9-ilvl 245)
Upgrade: Sanctified Crimson Acolyte Mantle(264) - tier token (T10)
Priority: low

Wrist
Current: Bejeweled Wizard's Bracers -
Upgrade: Death Surgeon's Sleeves(264) - ICC25 - Rotface
Priority: very low

Chest
Current: Meteor Chaser's Rainment
Upgrade: n/a - 3rd best in slot
Priority: n/a

Hands
Current:    Gloves of False Gestures
Upgrade: n/a - pretty much best in slot
Priority: medium

Waist
Current: Cord of the Patronising Practioner
Upgrade: Crushing Coldwraith Belt(264) - ICC25 - Marrowgar
Priority: low

Legs
Current: Kilt of Untreated Wounds
Upgrade: Leggings of Woven Death - crafted
Priority: low

Feet
Current: Sandals of the Silver Magus
Upgrade (best): Plague Scientist's Boots(264) - ICC25 Festergut
Upgrade: Sandals of Consecration - crafted
Priority:  n/a

Main hand
Current: Mag'hari Chieftain's Staff(251)
Upgrades:
Priority: undecided

Off hand
Current: Scourgelord's Baton(251)  (in the bank)
Upgrade: Shriveled Heart - HoR
Priority: low

Wand
Current: Rod of Imprisoned Souls | Wand of Ruby Claret(251) (for hit)
Upgrade: Corpse-Impaling Spike(264) - ICC25 Rotface
Priority: low

Trinkets
Current: Sundial of the Exiled | Muradin's Spyglass
Upgrade: Dislodged Foreign Object - ICC25 Rotface
Upgrade: Nevermelting Ice Crystal - Pit of Saron H
Priority: very high

Fingers
Current: Ashen Band of Destruction  |Pyrite Circle
Upgrade: Ashen Band of Endless Destruction Ashen rep
Upgrade: Ring of Rapid Ascent - ICC25 - Gunship Battle
Priority: medium

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#8 2009-08-28 22:41:26

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Re: [Gear] Avonar - shadow priest

Bump for ToTC/T9 update. Feedback is very welcome.

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#9 2009-08-29 02:51:50

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spell power / stam should be spell / power spirit if u wana max ur dps.. all the feedback i can give coz i ent checked out best egar lol xD

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#10 2009-10-09 22:16:46

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Re: [Gear] Avonar - shadow priest

Maybe not a bad idea to start documenting the changes, instead of just upgrading the gear list as necessary.

Changes:

Saving up to buy Crusader's Orbs for the Bejeweled Wizard's Bracers and Merlin's Robe. Need 60 Emblem of Triumph to buy the orbs for the bracers and 120 to buy the orbs for the robe. Currently have 20.

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#11 2009-10-10 23:28:31

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Changes:


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#12 2009-12-03 20:35:53

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Re: [Gear] Avonar - shadow priest

Upgrades thanks to a totgc 10 man run:

... which sort my hit problems quite nicely.

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#13 2010-01-02 17:06:59

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Re: [Gear] Avonar - shadow priest

Upgrades:

Replaced  Conqueror's Circlet of Sanctification (T8) with  Velen's Circlet of Triumph (T9 - 245)
Replaced Leggings of the Deepening Void with Velen's Pants of Triumph (T9 - 245)
Replaced Leash of Heedless Magic with Cord of the Tenebrous Mist

Allows for the T9 4x set bonus.

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#14 2010-01-23 23:44:21

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Replaced Merlin's Robe with Meteor Chaser's Rainment.
Replaced Band of Guile with Ashen Band of Destruction - not sure why that ring was equipped, I had better.

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#15 2010-01-27 17:35:03

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A lot of "n/a"s that I'm not understanding on your list. It seems to be up to date in regards to say what chest you're wearing but not what upgrades you plan for items such as T9 to T10.

Is this an error or a "just haven't bothered to update it yet"?


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#16 2010-01-27 21:23:40

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Re: [Gear] Avonar - shadow priest

So many updates that I'm overwhelmed as to which to choose.  As my raiding status is a bit iffy, I'm not quite sure which instances/levels to be focusing on, which just makes it more complicated.

Therefore am getting most obvious things from badges - plans are in my head and not on paper, which I should be changing.

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#17 2010-01-27 22:49:31

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#18 2010-01-28 00:56:39

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#19 2010-01-28 10:29:54

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Re: [Gear] Avonar - shadow priest

Thanks for the info.

While the Simcraft stuff was interesting in itself, I'm not quite sure how it would help with gear. What it did tell me was why certain debuffs should go up in certain order, etc.

My main gear list has been updated.


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#20 2010-01-28 10:40:14

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Emblem of Frost calculations

Worked out from current point in time. I'm not thinking about the 95 EoF that have already been spent on the chest.

To be bought, in order of priority (highest first):
Gloves of False Gestures - 60 EoF
This would be replacing T9 (245) but as the set bonus is already broken, I'd rather have these replaced sooner than later for a stronger item in this slot. These are also 2nd best in slot, so the biggest upgrade.

5x Primordial Saronite for Sandals of Consecration - 5x23 = 115 EoF
Could definitely be replaced, as these are ToTGC10 boots. Not a bad item, but improvements are possible.

8x Primordial Saronite for Leggings of Woven Death - 8x23 = 184 EoF
Fairly low priority, considering the currently equipped (ICC10) legs. Could be that by the time I've got these badges, we're into ICC 25 heroic, which changes things a bit.

Total necessary badges: 359

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#21 2010-01-28 11:19:36

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How good is the 2pc T10 bonus for SP's? Is it worth going the route of upgrading your head/shoulders first instead of looking at a mega-badge haul for these off-set pieces?

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#22 2010-01-28 11:45:33

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... which shows that I hadn't realized how T10 pieces work. 95 and 60 badges, plus the tier token. Having now looked more deeply, I don't even want to think about frost emblems anymore.

The first upgrade via emblems, the hands, is definitely worth it. Think I'll get that done within another 1-2 weeks, then see what's what.

Thanks for the feedback, Jer - much appreciated.

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#23 2010-01-28 12:00:59

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Even the 251 pieces are good upgrades to where you are now, based on your list. Seemed to make sense to go for a decent haul for half the badges, and have a chance of upgrading via tokens. Then work on the rest (alt's can help get Saronite), all the while the price of Saronite reduces.

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#24 2010-01-28 13:02:15

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Avonar wrote:

While the Simcraft stuff was interesting in itself, I'm not quite sure how it would help with gear.

If you look at the scale factors and stat plot charts you can see what stats are good for you and which are great. This is based on your current gear and not some generic stat weighting. The plot is especially useful as it shows what stats you are better off losing as well as gaining. Hit, for example, is far from a straight line; as you would expect.

The stat weights from that simcraft run (of your gear/spec) are what was used for the lootrank page and as such has listed all the upgrade options for you and scored them. They don't include weirdass procs (such as tier set bonuses and so you have to factor them in yourself but it certainly gives a decent measure for each stat and a means of measuring across stats.

As a simple example, the biggest upgrades you can get are for head and trinket slots. In a balanced gear set that would normally be weapon so I guess your head item and one of your trinkets is not doing you any favours and would be worth prioritising if possible.


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#25 2010-01-28 13:54:32

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duffry wrote:

As a simple example, the biggest upgrades you can get are for head and trinket slots. In a balanced gear set that would normally be weapon so I guess your head item and one of your trinkets is not doing you any favours and would be worth prioritising if possible.

Makes sense, thanks for the information.

As for the trinkets - they're the weakest thing in my gear at the moment, with the off hand being not too far behind. I'm surprised about the head, though, as that is tier 9.25 (lvl 245) gear.


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